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Hasta hace poco los tecno-optimistas, geeks y, en general, defensores de Internet tal como la conocemos han despreciado las intenciones de diversos gobiernos (y en ocasiones grandes corporaciones) para controlar la red y sus contenidos. La historia rec... [Read More]

» Filtros, barreras culturales y arquitectura de la red: ¿Hacia la balcanización de Internet? from Juan Freire
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Jon Garfunkel

Rebecca, thanks for your insight.

One thing tickles me here:
"...thus giving people the feeling that the government is more responsive to their concerns - whether or not it really is"

Possibly, do you suspect that this may be the result of blogging experiments in open societies as well? For example, the 2004 Kerry campaign blog. And hey, sometimes the appearance of open assemblies is sufficient for people in democracies (Bush "town hall" forums).

Also, which do you think blogging will ultimately have greater influence in, here in the U.S. or in China? My impression, based on hearing Hoder speak at the December Berkman conference, was that it has a more tremendous impact in societies where there is no independent media to speak of.

Another thing I took from Kristof's column-- one way to defeat the censors was to avoid blogs altogether, and distribute samizdat-style, via email.

Jon

bill bishop

kristof really showed his naivete on this one. perhaps his pandering kaifeng column was designed to balance this piece, so that he could still get a visa to visit china?

do you know if it is possible to get copies of the papers from the china internet conference you attended?

thanks

Jon Garfunkel

For the record, I saw Rebecca at a panel tonight at MIT, and she agreed with my assessment above.

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