If you're not already completely sick of reading about U.S. corporate responsibility and censorship in China, click here for the transcript of my Tuesday live chat on the Washington Post website. We had some pretty interesting questions. Here are a couple excerpts that touched on things I haven't yet blogged:
Washington, D.C.: Phil Pan mentioned earlier in his
discussion that only a minority of blogs are political. Are there many
blogs that are anti-American? Does the Chinese government censor such
blogs, especially in cases where the blogs may be critical of issues
sensitive to the improvement of U.S.-China relations? If yes, for what
reasons do you think they might do so?
Rebecca Mackinnon: Greetings!! Great to see so many questions already lined up!!
Yes
I think Phil is absolutely right, only a small minority of Chinese
blogs are political. Yes, some blogs are anti-American, or more
accurately, some bloggers often post opinions on their blogs that are
extremely critical of the United States and its motives. I haven't
heard of any cases of anti-American blog posts being censored or
bloggers encountering consequences for anti-American speech on the web
in China.
Right after September 11, 2001, there weren't really
any blogs in China but there were a lot of Chinese chatrooms- and there
were a lot of conversations in which Chinese netizens were saying
things like "served them right." That was definitely not the official
Chinese government policy - which condemned the terrorists. Also, after
the Spyplane incident in May 2001, people in Chinese chatrooms were
very critical of their government for having handed back the U.S. crew
and plane, and saw their government as having been too compromising
with the U.S.
So there are definitely parts of Chinese cyberspace
that take a much harder line towards the U.S. than the Chinese
government does, and it does not appear that these conversations are
censored - at least I haven't heard of them being censored.
Further down, I got a question from blogger James Na:
Washington, D.C.: Of the three groups (both internal and
external) participating in the discussion about China's future -- the
sellouts, the reformers and the revolutionaries ( The Korea Liberator ) -- it seems the greatest dispute is among the reformers and the revolutionaries.
When
should the reformers finally cast off the sellouts and join the
revolutionaries? Or will the reformers continue to ally with the
sellouts, hoping that China would gradually evolve into a
democratic-capitalist society?
Rebecca Mackinnon: Hello there! I think you may be implying that I'm a "reformer" and that I should join the "revolutionaries"...
Here's
the thing. If there's going to be a revolution, as you hope, it has to
come from the Chinese people themselves. It cannot come from some
externally-driven "regime change" campaign. The Chinese people are
extremely nationalistic and proud. They still have a huge chip on their
shoulder about their history of being dominated, occupied, pushed
around, and told what to do by foreigners. Successful democracy in
China must be a home-grown Chinese democracy, not something imposed on
them by Americans or anybody else.
Unfortunately, many Americans
who care about human rights issues in China such as myself are seen by
people in China as being neo-con regime changers whose hidden agenda is
to do an Iraq number on China, or who view China as the inevitable
enemy against whom we must ultimately go to war. This is really
unfortunate, because it couldn't be further from the case.
James blogged his response to my response. He felt that I misunderstood his question, agreed that change in China must come from within, but thinks that there remains a role for people outside China to help encourage change. As for why Chinese reformers haven't become "revolutionaries," James my short answer is: because they have way too much to lose. Most of the urban intellectuals and pro-reform bureaucrats who favor change have on the whole gained too much materially from 25 years of economic reforms to want to stick their necks out too far. Quite a number of people I know in Beijing who are now very rich businessmen - including some who now run internet companies that comply with censorship requirements - were actually out in the streets protesting in 1989...
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