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February 26, 2009


Don Tai

It is interesting and a little disconcerting that netizens would go after both corrupt officials and what looks like witch hunts of innocent people with the same enthusiasm. Are these innocent people guilty in the eyes of some Chinese? Are netizens simply exercising their intellectual muscles? Is it also possible that netizens may treat others just as badly and unjustly as they have been treated?

Note that 75-80% of China is still rural and may not have access to the web. They remain the silent majority and are largely unrepresented. To use the web for reform at the county level will be difficult.


“Idealistic and manipulated” is the most accurate description about Red Guards. Unfortunately, most ‘China experts’ in west have little understanding of it. I compare the Red Guards to the soldiers of Nazi German in WWII. It is always easier to demonize the tools who were also the victims than trying to understand them.


Though I agree that it likely would not get to the CR level of extended chaos, I think that scalding hot spots could develop in a very big hurry. As the net has become more troublesome for both local and the central officials, their reflexive ‘crackdowns’ have been more indicative of their fear of loss of control, which is what anyone who pays attention to such things would expect. The bigger problem will be the intensity of future crackdowns as social unrest continues to rise as, most assuredly, it will. Just how far will officialdom go to keep the lid on the rumbling can? Would they turn access off? That would surely tip the scales. Dilution through intimidation and arrests doesn’t seem to be working. So what alternative do they have? Slackening up the line doesn’t seem to be in the cards, at least while the current leadership - despite the soft-sell smiling face of Father Christmas-y Wen Jiabao, - is in power.


I'm curious why there is an intrinisic assumption to see the human flesh search engine as a monolithic and cohesive force when it clearly represents netizens either individually doing the fleshing or in different groups across various bbs, forums, and sites with different social norms to guide them.


I love Cultrual Revolution posters. They are so bueatiful.

CR art is very popular in China now, but you would be very mistaken to think today’s youth in China are becoming Red Guards in any shape or form. Most young people in China don’t even know Red Guards and won't care to know. They are the most apolitical people in the world.

China’s village election overall is a very mixed bag in terms of improving or further degrading rural governance. China being very practical and very conservative on stability, does not see the need and benefit in furthering such program.

Manny Hu

Witch Hunts? You should remember our own infamous blogger Chris Devonshire-Ellis. That'll be a case study with truth come out - one day. I'd love to read the real background to that situation.


If you think China is bad, check out the USA. Where do you think the FABRICATED
FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) is coming
from regarding ICANN, NTIA, NIST, etc.???

Partly from Steve Crocker of the ICANN Board. Why ? Because his company is PAID
to secure the homeland. The Crockers profit
from FABRICATED FUD. ICANN also gets to
deflect other issues by claiming they are
fighting the FABRICATED FUD, that one of
their Board members helps to create.

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With support from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Shinkuro is working with a range of technical and commercial stakeholder communities to deploy the newly adopted Domain Name System Security Extensions (DNSSEC) protocol. Widespread deployment of the protocol promises to enhance the security of the Internet infrastructure by attaching cryptographic signatures to DNSSEC records that will allow system users to detect responses that may have been compromised. To this global effort, Shinkuro brings expertise in mobilizing, organizing and leveraging disparate resources and fledgling efforts, supported by networking tools and focused software development.


From Yahoo comes...
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang attacked Clinton's comments as a "gross interference in China's internal affairs."

"We urge the U.S. to put aside its political prejudice and correct its wrongdoing and refrain from disrupting or undermining bilateral relations," Qin said in response to a question at a regularly scheduled news briefing. Qin refused to comment on the security measures — or even acknowledge they were in place.

"Today is like any other day, stable," he said.

Beijing has never allowed an independent investigation into the military's crushing of the protests, in which possibly thousands of students, activists and ordinary citizens were killed. Young Chinese know little about the events, having grown up in a generation that has largely eschewed politics in favor of raw nationalism, wealth acquisition and individual pursuits.

This is very similar to the way The Big Lie Society has managed the Internet in the .US. The Big Lie Society carefully
controls Internet opportunities and those
that play their game prosper and see no

Every ICANN meeting is a big love-fest.
The people are given the mushroom treatment, they are kept in dark rooms
and fed manure. They are happy mushrooms.

The Big Lie Society laughs all the way to
the bank. Follow the money.

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