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Japanese young people often spend a lot of time socialising at places other than their homes, as to visit someone's home in Japan is much more of a big deal and hence more unsual than in the West. This is another big reason that mobile phones are proportionally hugely more popular than computers in Japan, and hence bear the primary burden of facilitating digital social interactions.

Incidentally, I heard a year ago about a Japanese trend of sending short Tanka poems (the Tanka is the less formally-demanding cousin of the Haiku) to friends via mobile email! Only in Japan. : )

cam c.

As someone who has lived in and worked in Japan for the better part of the last decade (I'm back in my native Canada for now though...) I thought the article was more or less on target. However, I had to take exception with a one bit

"Consumer behavior in Japan is totally driven by the teenagers," says Manfred "Luigi" Lugmeyer, editor in chief of the global gadget e-zine I4U. "They're not just buying toys -- they're buying electronics. They're competing in school to have the coolest stuff. American kids are into sneakers. Japanese kids are into technology."

Dynamism's Douglas Krone agrees: "Being cool in high school in Japan is all about having the right cell phone. And we're not just talking about brands or styles here. You need to have the functions, the features -- megapixel cameras, and so forth."

First of all, anyone who has ever been to Tokyo can attest to the fact that Japanese kids are very much into sneakers.. and jeans, and fashion in general. Electronics are just another facet of their fashion fetish.

This sort of explanation (which admittedly was from someone who is probably not an expert on Japanese culture) reminds me of the bizarre "Japanese kids work harder in school because they wear uniforms" garbage that was floating around a few years ago.

In fact, in terms of general high-tech skills, I'd give North American kids the edge... there are a lot of 20 year olds in Japan going into the workforce with no Internet or computer skills, because they use their cellphones for email and browsing, apparently. The "hacker" type is not unknown to that country, but they are often lumped together with the comic and animation geek "otaku" groups, who are somewhat disdained by ordinary society.

The bits on schoolgirls and young working singles living with their parents (called "parasite singles" in Japanese-English) was right on the money... it seems that whenever a new craze comes out, the news cameramen head straight to Shibuya to see what the schoolgirls think of it...

ZK

Is this yet another example of a relative compatibility between middle-aged American males and teenage Asian females? :\

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October 10, 2005
Taishi, China: Lu Banglie lives, will his cause die?
When Guardian reporter Benjamin Joffe-Walt last saw Lu Banglie, the activist beaten by local thugs for leading the journalist to Taishi village where villagers' demands for democracy had caused such a ruckus the authorities had sealed off the area, here is how Joffe-Walt describes Lu's physical condition:

He lay there - his eye out of its socket, his tongue cut, a stream of blood dropping from his mouth, his body limp, twisted. The ligaments in his neck were broken, so his head lay sideways as if connected to the rest of his body by a rubber band.


Based on such a description, it seems implausible that a person could survive. But he did. Radio Free Asia has interviewed Lu. Here is an English summary. Here is the original Chinese audio. Here is RFA's report on Lu's account of what happened:

“All of a sudden many people surrounded our car,” Lü told RFA’s Mandarin service. “We tried to put the gear in reverse but the mob would not let us go in reverse either. They were pointing at me as if they knew me.”

Lu, who was trying to accompany Guardian correspondent, was pulled out of the front passenger seat by several men by the hair, he said. “They started hitting me with their fists and kicking me with their feet. They pinned me to the ground and kept beating me. I fainted,” he told RFA reporter Zhang Min.

“Someone splashed cold water on me and I regained consciousness for a second but then passed out again. When I came to, I was in a moving vehicle. My head was hurting very badly. I started throwing up,” he said.

After he had vomited several times, the men offered him food, and then dumped him at the Zhijiang Hotel, contacting the Zhijiang parliament as they left. Two parliamentary officials then took Lu to hospital, suggesting to him that he should blame Taishi villagers for the attack.

But Lu won't blame the villagers:

“I don’t know who beat me. They were wearing plain clothes. But later I was told by people from the Zhijiang People’s Congress that they were villagers. They even asked me, ‘Don’t you think the farmers down there are violent and barbaric?’ I was still in a daze at the time, but I remember replying, ‘It’s not the peasants who are barbaric. It’s the government.’ They smiled.”

Lu said he was convinced that those who beat him did so on behalf of local government officials, who villagers say have launched a concerted campaign of psychological pressure, threats, and unattributable violence to prevent the recall of village chief Chen Jinsheng since a dispute blew up in July over a U.S.$12 million land deal.

“The government has adopted heavy-handed tactics to deal with those who are only trying to defend their rights according to the law. It chills my heart,” Lu said.

Chinese government efforts at media blackout continue. According to ESWN all attempts to post comments about Taishi on Chinese online forums are blocked by censors. A few Chinese blogs are commenting. The focus has more to do with the Guardian journalist's responsibility and role in the incident. The Chinese blogger Anti has a scathing post about Joffe-Walt, ESWN translates it here (scroll down a bit). Anti declares: "The Guardian has no conscience: are Chinese lives worthless?" He then continues:

As for The Guardian's Benjamin Joffe-Walt, how the fuck did he still have to nerve to write this kind of report? Perhaps he is young and does not yet know that reporting in certain areas of China is just like in a war zone. He should not have gone there against the advice of others, and he should not have brought Lu Banglie to the village. Since he was being taken out by the police, why didn't he insist on rescuing Lu Banglie as well? It is alright to beg for mercy when it happened. But the more important thing is that you have a duty and you must assume responsibility for your companion. Or is that Chinese person just a guide dog?

Thus, we the Chinese people are treated like dogs by the government and we are also treated like dogs by certain arrogant and ignorant foreigners. I have no idea how this tragedy can be changed.

Shanghai-based Dutch journalist has his own views on the subject here. China Digital Times has a translation here of another Chinese journalist's views on the situation, focusing also on the risk that Lu took by taking a British reporter into the hot zone.

There are indeed some serious issues about a Western reporter's responsibility for endangering and/or protecting the safety of their sources, interpreters, and guides. There were many times, when I was working in China, when I opted not to report certain stories because doing so would endanger the lives of people involved.

At the same time, I hope this question of a foreign correspondent's responsibility will not become a convenient way of distracting people from the core issue: one of human rights and the suppression of a democracy movement in Taishi.

Will Chinese netizens be successfully manipulated into foreigner-bashing as an acceptable alternative to communist party-bashing?

UPDATE (Tuesday AM EST): The Guardian has an update plus interview with Lu here.

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There is a much more serious problem. Lu Banglie was indeed beaten up, but his injuries seem to be fairly minor and were never life threatening.

The Guardian has just shot its credibility to hell in the Chinese blogosphere. The problem is that if the Guardian got these facts wrong, then that completely opens up the question of what is really going on in Tashi.


Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 11, 2005 at 03:16 AM

This guy has no business covering China. If you have to rely on translators/interpreters in China, you will find yourself at a constant disadvantage an unable to get to the bottom of anything other than your whiskey glass.
My bet is, had this guy gone *alone* he would have been fine, may have actually *been* to Taishi and could then perhaps further enlighten us with regard to what he purports to be "perhaps the most significant grassroots social movement China has seen since the Cultural Revolution." Which is taking place in a town he's never been to.
The whole (Guardian) piece reeks of hyperbole (quelle suprise).


Posted by: Brian Kennedy | October 11, 2005 at 06:28 AM

I should point out that from what I have seen I'm on the side of the villagers. What it looks like is that you have local officials which have are trying to cover up the fact that they've got their hand in the cookie jar. Having said that.....

Hyperbole does not help thing.

The political reality is that the only way you are going to get anything done is provincial and central officials decide to step in. (And there have been cases in which they have done so. Tung Che-Hwa and the SARS scandal are two.) Overstating the case of the villagers makes it less likely that this is going to happen.

The other issue is that the way the story is being played is that "Tashi shows that all of the rhetoric about the CCP wanting to help the poor is a sham." The trouble is that Tashi is one village, and we have no idea based on press reports what is happening in the tens of thousands of other villages. Of course you can make assumptions based on your beliefs about how the world works (i.e. the CCP is evil therefore of course things are worse elsewhere), but the whole point of journalism is to get the facts.

There is another huge blind spot in the traditional press. The Tashi incident has already gone on for about three months. It's likely to continue to go on for another several months if not years. Newspapers tend to be horrible about covering stories like that.

Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 11, 2005 at 09:03 AM

Just what Rebecca said she hopes doesn't happen is happening, right here in front of our very eyes: mischievous commenters, here and on multiple blogs, are diverting attention away from the heart of the matter (what's happening at Taishi) and instead chanting in unison about the Guardian for the reporter's error, as though that's the big lesson to take away from this horrific story. Rebecca, your prescience astounds me once more, and I look to you as the oracle of the China-focused blogosphere. Really. Thanks so much for your diligence.

Posted by: richard | October 12, 2005 at 03:37 AM

IMHO, the big story is how the traditional Western media has just totally messed this one up. The Communist Party censors and closes blogs, yet the coverage on this story in China has been hundreds of times better than in the traditional Western media. That has far more disturbing implications than what is happening in Tashi.

If the Western media is messing up coverage of a tiny village in Guangzhou, what the hell is going on in Iraq? or New Orleans? or Iran? or North Korea? or Afghanistan?

I can read Chinese. I've been to China. I think I can make a pretty informed opinion about what is going on there. But I can't read Arabic and I don't have any clue what is going on in the Middle Eastern blogosphere.

Also, I'd be careful of the "everyone who disagrees with me is a CCP minon" attitude. I saw that a lot with the Tiananmen democracy activists. The trouble with thinking that way is that pretty soon everyone gets labelled an CCP minon, and you find yourself totally alone and ineffective.

One of the problem that I see with trying to fit this into the "good villagers raising up against the CCP" point of view is that you miss some questions.

Three questions I have are:

1) Lu Banglie along with other activists are members of local people's congresses. Is he is a party member? What sort of political protection does he have? One weakness that he has is that he is from Hubei and so can't pull too many strings in Guangdong. At the same time, the people who beat him up are going to be in much more serious trouble if he comes to any major harm.

2) Did the local committee offer any sort of carrots to get the villagers to withdraw?

The standard operating procedure in this sort situation is for the officials to offer *both* carrots and sticks (i.e. we'll start arrest people but if you cooperate we'll give you all cash from this special fund).

3) What has been the censorship like in other stories? The Taishi story has been heavily censored since about 9/16. This could be because the Central Propaganda Bureau has issued a censorship order relating specifically to Tashi. However, it is also the case that the Propaganda Bureau issues a general "do not report bad news" order in late September because of National Day and the Party conference. Also the Party conference means that the Central Government is pretty much paralyzed for about two to three weeks and one wouldn't expect intervention in any local situation.

Some digging ought to be able to get you some good information, since people who know are on the internet.


Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 12, 2005 at 10:26 AM

One pet peeve that I have is when newspapers do not get titles right. Liu Banglie is, according to ESWN, the NPC deputy from Zhijiang, Hubei. Titles mean a lot since they are a rough indication of the amount of political connections someone can pull. The Guardian identified Liu Banglie was a village head, which has considerable less political pull than an NPC deputy.

An NPC deputy is largely a ceremonial position, but the positions are vetted by the CCP Organization Department, which means that he does certainly have some political pull (at least in Hubei). RFA identified him as a member of the Zhijang "parliament" which is different. If he were a member of the local city people's congress, the amount of political pull he would have would be different. A local people's congress delegate would have more real power locally, but less pull nationally. It's also possible that he is both. (That's why I'm curious of Lu is a party member or not.)

What I find appalling is that no one has asked him the really important background questions. What I would be interested in knowing is his experiences in trying to enforce the Village Election Law? Is Taishi the first time he has tried something like this? How typical is Taishi? How atypical is Taishi? All of that would give a much better idea of what is going on in that corner of the world.

There is a danger of overgeneralization. We seem to have a good idea of what is happening with Taishi (thanks to ESWN). With some questioning of Lu, we might be able to get some insight into what is happening in Hubei and Guangdong. This still doesn't give us a general picture of what is happening all over China.

One other bit of data. I do recall a paper on the implementation of the village election law. Basically the Chinese system of government effectively gives very broad powers to provincial governments to implement (or not implement) national laws. The paper was trying to make a connection between factors such as the law implementation and factors such as economic growth. It concluded that a great deal of how the Village Election Law gets implemented depends on the personality of provincial government and in some cases the personality of the provincial governor. Some provinces are very enthusiatic about village elections. Some are not, and there is no coorelation with much of anything. Among the provinces which are not enthusiatic is Guangdong. (Zhejiang and Fuijan by contrast are very enthusiatic about village elections.) I'll try to dig up the paper.

Also from the Chinese viewpoint whether Lu is minorly injured or dead matters a great deal. Basically if Lu is seriously injured or dead, he becomes a heroic martyr and at that point the central government is forced to come down hard on the Taishi local government (see Sun Zigang which was also very poorly covered)

If Lu is not dead or seriously injured, then he is not a heroic martyr. At this point his guangxi networks in Hubei can't do very much, and Beijing can't do very much either if the Guangdong provincial government does not want to act (which it may or may not do.)

Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 12, 2005 at 12:48 PM

"At the same time, I hope this question of a foreign correspondent's responsibility will not become a convenient way of distracting people from the core issue: one of human rights and the suppression of a democracy movement in Taishi. "

The best way to quell the diverting of attention and 'manipulation' is for us (and the Guardian) to face it squarely ourself, before lending CCP such ammunition.

What Richard asked for here, is exactly the opposite. To employ the CCP tactic of self denial and censoring the seeking for truth is playing into CCP's hand. This is the best way to hurt the Taishi cause.

I seem to have read that Lu himself is a success story of a case parallel to Taishi. So there might well have been a few sucess stories of village re-election already. Perhaps our journalists could cover the story of these cases (e.g. that of Lu himself)

Posted by: sun bin | October 12, 2005 at 01:25 PM

Some more cultural observations....

The "cult of the heroic martyr" has very deep resonance in Chinese culture, and if someone dies in the process of righteous resistance, all hell breaks loose. The script goes that someone with privilege and power is willing to sacrifice that privilege and power and stand with the people in righteous resistance.

I think that some of the invective that is being aimed at the Guardian is because the reporter didn't follow the script. His "role" is to come in and get beat up. He wasn't.

There's also a long history of "fake martyrdom" which the Guardian inadvertently tripped over. So what really happened to Lu Bangjie is not a minor detail at all.

I don't detect any anti-foreign sentiment at all in this at all. Same thing would have happened if you had a Chinese reporter involved.

The CCP knows this, and is very, very careful not to execute dissidents. The perferred action by the CCP toward most dissidents is to send them to the United States at which point they stop being martyrs, and lose all popular support.

It is also very fortunate that in Chinese culture unlike Islamic culture it is essential that to be a martyr that someone else has to pull the trigger. Suicide is highly frowned on. This also poses a dilemma for political activists in China because if you do something that is clearly suicidal, then people think of you as "crazy" and again you don't get much popular support.

The Western narrative I think in place is the "Star Wars" narrative (rebel band overthrows evil empire). This is similar to the Chinese narrative, but there are differences. The most important one is that in the Western narrative the martyr comes from outside the system, whereas in the Chinese narrative the martyr comes from within the system. Also the Western narrative tends to say that once the rebels overthrow the empire there will be this wonderful new world and people will live happily ever after. In the Chinese narrative, the rebel overthrow the dynasty, becomes the new emperor, and over time the dynasty will become corrupt and things will happen all over again. Personally, I think the Chinese version tends to be closer to what actually happens.

The other difference is that in the Western narrative, it is essential to overthrow the evil empire. In the Chinese narrative, often the story ends when the emperor listens to reason comes in and gets rid of the corrupt officials. That would make a bizarre ending to Star Wars.

The Western narrative causes reporters to miss a few things.

Basically the future of the Communist Party depends on how well the Party can incorporate people like Lu Banglie (and the fact that he is an NPC deputy means that someone in the Party likes him), and the degree to which people like him believe in the system. This could be determined by asking a few questions, which I haven't seen asked.

Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 12, 2005 at 01:46 PM

I just found that there had been at least 52 cases before 2003 of village mayor impeachments. Probably a lot more by now.
Taishi seems to be among the 'failed' cases which probably involves local corruption or incompetence

http://sun-bin.blogspot.com/2005/10/taishi-and-village-impeachment.html

Posted by: sunbin | October 12, 2005 at 11:48 PM

And of course, being labeled a "mischievous commenters", I must live up to it by asking questions contrary to the prevailing generalization of China.

Is Beijing really involved?

Has anyone see the Chinese news and website reporting of Lu's farmer's rights activity in previous years?

Specifically the scuffle and fights he gets into in his own village? I think this has something to do with Joseph's "martyr" comment. This seems to be his trademark, a "bitter flesh" strategy of sorts. It's a "charge against windmill", I read on one blog.

It reminds of Mississippi Burning in our own history. Would anyone say the local's treatment of civil rights wokers were at the direction of the Whitehouse? Many of those racists certainly were Republican and/or Democrat.

Only the most unreasonable person would reach such conclusion, so why should it be any different when it comes to China?


Posted by: bobby fletcher | October 13, 2005 at 03:02 AM

Something to keep in mind is that what Lu Banglie has been fighting for is to make sure simply that the laws are enforced and that people know what they can do under Chinese law. If Beijing really didn't like what was going on, they could change the law to make impeachment impossible, and if the Central Government considered Lu Banglie a threat to either the Communist Party or the state, he'd be in jail in about thirty seconds.

Something else that should be called attention to is that Lu Banglie seems to be get beat up a lot, but there don't seem to be any guns anywhere. There is a reason for that. Basically to use deadly force requires using the People's Armed Police and that requires authorization at the provincial government level.

Ordinary Chinese police are unarmed, and village and township heads are far too low to authorize the use of deadly force. There is also no way that a village or township head could allow non-police to use guns without their ending up in a huge amount of trouble.

Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 13, 2005 at 09:33 AM

FYI, Guardian has issued a clarification.

Posted by: Joseph Wang | October 14, 2005 at 10:00 PM

I certainly hope media will pay more attention to the broader issue Taishi brought to the open. Do you think our media would be interested in covering China's village recall elections in a more balanced, objective way than the case of BJW? Eg. report some good news such as successful impeachment?

http://www.cncitizen.org/article.php?articleid=148

While not trying to generalize 50+ cases of successful village impeachments, I believe it is something deserving careful consideration, as it will temper the "Taishi generalization" and hopefully help yield a more realistic picture of China's reality.

I too believe that the truth is somewhere in between, as others have expressed.

While I haven't found a complete list of village impeachments, I have found a number that's around 2000.

Here are few more examples of village impeachment that went on peacefully at least, and seemingly with laws observed, in addition to the 50 cases from cncitizen.org:

http://news.sohu.com/20/04/news146000420.shtml
温州282名村民罢免不受信任村干部
(Wenzhou 282 villagers impeach untrustworthy village committee)

http://news.qq.com/a/20051009/000962.htm
海南:村民不满土地发包作假罢免村干部
(Hainan: villagers dissatisfied with fraudulent land lease impeach
village committee)

http://bjyouth.ynet.com/article.jsp?oid=2957421
村民投票罢免村官
(Villager vote to impeach village official)

Here's an article on a failed impeachment bid, faulting local government of not following the law. Well, from of all places, People's Daily:

http://www.people.com.cn/GB/other4583/4592/6573/20020206/664199.html
赵兰庄村委会自1988年上任以后,几次操纵换届选举,不开村民会议,不公开投票,成员没有大的变动,工作实际上是连续的,怎么能说那些问题不是本届村委会造成­的?村民递交的罢免申请书,村里2386名有选举权的人都签名摁了手印,难道它就没有一点说服力吗?
(Since 1998 YueYangZuan Village committee took over, has repeatedly manipulated re-election, failed to hold village meetings, refused to publish ballots, resulting in little change in its membership. It's administration is in fact continuous, how can it say the problem is result of previous administration? In the Villager's impeachment petition, all 2386 qualified voters signed the petition, how can it not be compelling?)

Posted by: bobby fletcher | October 17, 2005 at 06:37 PM


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