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April 16, 2006

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Gen Kanai

Rebecca, it was a pleasure to finally meet you and hear you speak (even if I don't understand Mandarin :) I'm glad you posted this overview of your speech.

Just a small clarification, I'm working with the Mozilla Corporation, not the Foundation.

Rebecca MacKinnon

sorry Gen! I'll fix that now.
Fabulous to meet you!
R

schee

Actually, bloggers from Taiwan have been engadged in prolific talks with many of whom from China since the late 2002 and worked competitively in one way or another to bring in the Creative Commons to the Chinese speaking world. It's just that these "traces" of conversation has not been well-preserved... :(

And why many Taiwanese bloggers know each other is becasue... they tend to meet almost every other week or so since 2003. :)

Nice to meet you again Rebecca. :)

Vista

Hi Rebecca, nice to meet you again.

不到一年的時間能見到兩次面,實在是很愉快的事情。也謝謝妳把我拍的照片加入Flickr的最愛。

Michael Turton

What? Nobody told me about this meeting! Damn! BTW, there's an English blogosphere about Taiwan that is also trying to build bridges and open windows -- was it represented there? I regularly fire off letters and contact people when the US/foreign media does one of its usual screw-ups with Taiwan. As far as I can see -- the language issue -- not enough Taiwanese are blogging about politics in English and not enough are reading the English-language global media -- to really respond intelligently to the World Out There.

Also, who are these A-list bloggers? Can I find a list of them? I'd love to blog on their blogs.

Michael

taipeimarc

Interesting how this blog conference came along, but the best blogger in Taiwan, by far, Michael Turton was not invited. I highly recommend anyone interested in Taiwan to visit his site: http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/

Tim Maddog

Rebecca wrote:
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Special thanks [...] to the China Times which sponsored my plane ticket and hotel.
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What a stunning admission! You wouldn't be "required to filter out long lists of politically sensitive words" or phrases (e.g., "authoritarian-leaning KMT," "anti-democracy Lien Chan," etc.) when writing about Taiwan in the future, would you?

Rebecca MacKinnon

Thanks Schee for your excellent point.

Michael & Marc, a couple of the Taiwan A-listers have just posted comments in this thread and I've linked to a few others. There's an aggregator on the conference blog where much of Taiwan's A-list is represented. I'm sorry to hear that there is so little interface between the English-language expat bloggers and local Chinese-language bloggers.

Tim, I am just trying to be transparent about disclosing my funders. Given my nonprofit and academic job I don't have a travel budget to attend conferences and rely on conference organizers and sponsors to fund my travel and hotel. This is pretty standard practice. If you think I can easily be bought, you are welcome to think so but you would be wrong.

Michael Turton

I'm sorry to hear that there is so little interface between the English-language expat bloggers and local Chinese-language bloggers.

Heck, I didn't even realize how bad it was between the Chinese Blogosphere and the English one until I saw that there were no English-language bloggers at the meeting (and my blog and David at Jujuflop and a couple of others are regularly pointed to from Global Voices Online too!). Two blogospheres so close, yet worlds apart.

Fortunately Schee and I will both be at a blogging roundtable this weekend down in Tainan, and mayhap we can start thinking about ways to bridge that world.

Many thanks to Schee and Gen for their kind comments on my blog.

Michael

Tim Maddog

Rebecca replied:
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Tim, I am just trying to be transparent about disclosing my funders. [...] If you think I can easily be bought, you are welcome to think so but you would be wrong.
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I'm just speculating on the practices of the anti-Taiwan media here. What may not look like an outright bribe can still be a way of gaining influence. One can only wonder why so many of the people writing about Taiwan in the international media echo the memes of papers like the China Times (which doesn't seem to know that it's in Taiwan). Why, oh why, does the int'l media constantly say, for example, that Taiwan "separated from the mainland in 1949 after a civil war" when Taiwan was never part of that China? Am I to believe that this just happens spontaneously?

I worded my question very carefully, allowing a big opening for you to give the answer you did. I think it was best for me to say it out loud, though, rather than to merely wonder.

Here's the part from the ellipsis in the quoted section at the top of this comment:
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Given my nonprofit and academic job I don't have a travel budget to attend conferences and rely on conference organizers and sponsors to fund my travel and hotel. This is pretty standard practice.
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And here's an Upton Sinclair quote which could be applied to either gender:
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It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.
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Now, when can we look forward to some scathing blogging about the lies in the China Times? ;-)

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