links for 2008-03-23

• Yahoo! denies posting web photos of Tibetan protesters
  "US Internet giant Yahoo! denied Saturday posting on its websites pictures of 19 people wanted by the Chinese authorities for protesting in the Tibetan capital Lhasa."
  (tags: yahoo! csr propaganda media journalism newmedia internet china chineseinternetresearch)
• YouTube unblocked in China--but could Google have cooperated? | Sinobyte: CNET Blog on technology and the impact on China's environment, politics, and international affairs. - CNET Blogs
  Sinobyte reports that YouTube is unblocked but Tibet-related pages still appear to be - thought it's unclear with or without Google's assistance. Gmail confirmed to be problematic using "http' but working fine if you use "https"
  (tags: chineseinternetresearch china internet censorship google youtube gmail)
• Alibaba seeks buyers for Yahoo-owned stake: source | Technology | Reuters
  "China's Alibaba Group is seeking investors to buy the 39 percent stake in the Internet company held by Yahoo Inc, a person with direct knowledge of the situation said on Tuesday..."
  (tags: china alibaba yahoo! internet chineseinternetresearch business)
• EastSouthWestNorth: Most Wanted in Tibet
  Roland has a roundup of info on the "most wanted in Tibet" photos making the rounds of the Chinese Internet, and points out that Yahoo! and other Western-owned/invested portals are in a tough spot.
  (tags: tibet china chineseinternetresearch internet propaganda media journalism)

Comments

[Charles Liu]

Right, just like Yahoo's "is not" - Pain "was/is not" on GV board? Irony abound.

No wonder you guys weren't blogging about OSI bank rolling Burma's little uprise.

So, this is what's underneath the facade of "new media" - same old NGO/GO money and agenda?

New media, old media, does it even matter? China can't win.

[clarke]

the only "echo" around here comes from Chuck Liu spouting Chinese Communist party doublespeak and platitudes...

[Rebecca MacKinnon]

Yeah clarke you're right. He sees everything as an anti-China conspiracy and isn't interested in any other possibilities. He can't get his head around the idea that some Westerners can be critical of the Chinese government's actions (AND other governments including the U.S.) but not be racist or "anti-China": in other words, that it's possible to wish the Chinese people well and to hope they'll achieve all the success that they deserve in the global economy without having one's tongue up the Chinese government's anal orifice at all times.

[Charles Liu]

Please take a look at your Tibet coverage so far. Have you given the victims of Tibet rioters a fair shake?

Pople that were beaten/stoned to death. What about their human rights?

You had one link to Roland's blog, and one reluctant "balanced" retort to prove you "are not siding with the rioters".

The right hates China, the left hates China... the result is these false image and twist of fact only contribute toward America's anti-Chinese hysteria.

You bet I'm gonna take it personal.

It's ironic that while y'all are obviousely connected, you are accusing me of having something to do with the Chinese government. Let's see some Google result, or is that just something from your "anal orifice"?

[Rebecca MacKinnon]

Charles no doubt your anger is genuine. Why don't you start your own blog so that you can make your case more completely and to a larger audience? I'm sure it would develop quite a large following if indeed there are many others who share your feelings and views.

[barnychan]

"Charles no doubt your anger is genuine"

You really think so? My hunch is that the Charles and Mahathir Fan double act here is the start of a Borat-style spoof (no doubt funded by George Soros) intended to discredit the Chinese diaspora. I've met some strange, paranoid, self-pitying Chinese nationalists in my time, but nothing to match these two. They can't be real...

[mahathir_fan]

barny,
sorry you got it all wrong. Charles is against China-haters. I am on the same "side" of China-haters. You can think of me as a Western-hater, because I do not think China-haters are misinformed. Charles would think that with the right information there would be less China-haters. I welcome that potential reality but I will reserve judgement after the fact.

For example, Charles would probably be against an Olympic boycott. Whereas, I am all for an Olympic boycott. Charles would probably want the Western media to correct themselves and report news fairly. I on the other hand am enjoying all the Western media's mistakes and hope that they will keep making those mistakes to anger the Chinese.

Your little mind may have a hard time discerning the 2 because we bring up similar points, but our final agenda are quite completely the opposite.

[barnychan]

"Your little mind may have a hard time discerning the 2 because we bring up similar points, but our final agenda are quite completely the opposite."

Your individual intentions are irrelevant. What matters is that both of you give the impression that the Chinese diaspora is made up of hysterical paranoid inadequates seeing conspiracy in every corner. The reality is very different.