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March 16, 2008



Good question - of course, the answer should be yes, but this rubbish about both sides being equally partisan makes it impossible. If you believe this then you've swallowed the communist party's position. For them obfuscation always benefits their claim to establishing clarity and order.

What's happening in Tibet and Gansu is an overdue response to Beijing's attempts to commit cultural genocide. Beijing has a small window to save themselves a major problem - engage with the Tibetan exiled leadership, bring them into the political process. If they don't then this new generation will have no choice but to revert to more violence....perhaps terrorism.

Another excellent book on Tibet is Mary Craig's "Tears of Blood"

Chuck Pelto

TO: Rebecca MacKinnon
RE: Discussion! Possible?

"Tibet... is discussion possible?" -- Rebecca MacKinnon


But not WITH the Communist Chinese. Otherwise, given the opportunity, they'll beat the living stuffings out of you....if not outright kill you. But...hey...that's the way they do 'government'. It's their MO. And, whomever accepts it is culpable.

On the other hand, there are other venues where this atrocity can be addressed. For instance the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

It's a crying shame that they've sunk to the level of the Nobel Prize crew; honoring mass murderers, i.e., Arafat.

So. I suggest we address the IOC, as we cannot impact on the Communist dictators of China. But we CAN impact the IOC.



[Silence is affirmation. -- English Common Law]

Charles Liu

Believe me, a quick servey of what the self appointed expat China experts are saying will prove a simple truth - most y'all "ma'sas" are only interested in bashing China and denigrate a billion people, while ignoring the blood soaked land we are standin on.

We ain't interested in talking to the Chinese.

If we do, perhaps we will have a real conversation about our own transgressions, our own physical/cultural genocide.

Show me one Tibet blogger that blogged with the same "enthusiasm" when the last native speaker of Eyak died.

Show me one Tibet blogger that holds ourselves to the same standards that we impose on the Chinese.

I once asked if it's okay to put the Tibetans in reservations like we do with the Native Americans(Tibet SAR as one contiguous territory).

I never got an answer.

clarence chen

What is there to discuss? These riots are obviously orchestrated by the Dalai Lama. He is an opportunist who took the same tack in 1959 and 1989.

I cannot see any discuss to take place before calm returns to the streets of Tibet. And you certainly cannot expect that to happen before a stop to the looting, burning of Han, Muslim shops.

Serfdom for Tibet!


Why Dalai Lama didn't call the stop of the violence and the killing and beating of innocent Han People immediately?

Could worthy ends justify any means? If that is the case, why should we blast any terrorist attacks?

As a spirit leader, "I cannot ask people not to do this, not to do that" is simply not good enough.

This is an interesint eyewitness account on the Garudian webiste:

Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/15/tibet.china2

"The residents are very angry. They are throwing stones at anyone who is Han [Chinese] or from other minorities like the Hui, who are Muslims. It seems like it's ethnic - like they want to kill anyone not Tibetan."
"I saw three people assaulting a man - I was 50 metres away, but I think he was Chinese. They kicked him and then one man had a knife and used it. He was lying on the floor and the man put the knife in his back, like he wanted to see he was dead.
"I had to get away, there were people throwing stones.
"When I came back he was gone - I don't know if he's dead. Then I saw people who had obviously been beaten or stoned. There wasn't blood on them but they were so shocked.
"This area used to be a place where Tibetans and the Chinese were friendly.


"Tibet... is discussion possible?"

No, not in any meaningful way at the present time.

Maybe when a little bit of financial reality bites some of the current nationalistic frenzy might abate and make the beginnings of genuine dialogue a possibility. Sadly, until that point, any attempt at engagement merely serves to fuel the already insane levels of Chinese xenophobia.


Hang on...you expect to have a rational discussion with someone who thinks that he is the reincarnation of a religious god called the Dalai Lama?

When the gets back down to earth and admits that he is human like the rest of us, then maybe we can have a chance for some dicussion.

For if he is the Dalai Lama, then I must be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.


How true observation about the Olympics, the differing viewpoints of both the Western world and the Chinese world.

However, a sentence worth pondering is - "Two Worlds, Two Dreams" is that true?

The West may not like China, but China still have friends in Africa, Asia and Latin America.

I would hope that the West would boycott the Olympics as well as Made in China products.

I just want to announce again to "the rest of the world" (and that means the Western world) - for the Africans, Latin Americans and other Asians don't exist- that if you don't like what is happening in Tibet, you are free to boycott the Olympics.

As a Chinese, I cannot force you to boycott. But I hope you will make the right choice and do the right thing that will make both of us happy.


"I would hope that the West would boycott the Olympics as well as Made in China products...As a Chinese, I cannot force you to boycott. But I hope you will make the right choice and do the right thing that will make both of us happy."

Mahathir Fan, thanks for adding weight to my point regarding the current insane level of Chinese xenophobia.



The authorities, out of FRUSTRATION, are blaming the totally innocent Dalai Lama.

Read my stuff at

Wait for a few more months - THIS REVOLT'S GONNA SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE.

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